tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17500930.post2304433661446717767..comments2024-03-20T22:57:03.923+00:00Comments on Dean Bubley's Disruptive Wireless: KPN's HomeZone service... more granular than German offerings?Dean Bubleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05719150957239368264noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17500930.post-20219145418908162322008-12-11T09:09:00.000+00:002008-12-11T09:09:00.000+00:00O2 Genion launched a Home Zone for the country in ...O2 Genion launched a Home Zone for the country in 2007 for the Soho customers and took it off the market in beginning of 2008. Why do you think that is?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17500930.post-41936275400237791472007-02-06T15:28:00.000+00:002007-02-06T15:28:00.000+00:00As it happens, I have a briefing with Seeker sched...As it happens, I have a briefing with Seeker scheduled for the next few days.Dean Bubleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05719150957239368264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17500930.post-45998261101703002262007-02-06T15:24:00.000+00:002007-02-06T15:24:00.000+00:00Nilz, Dean, there is indeed a solution for accurat...Nilz, Dean, there is indeed a solution for accurate home zone solution, with real accuracy and reliability. These two parameters are key together by the way, everybody only sticking to the accuracy part, but needless to say that if you have a accuracy of 10 meters but a 10% reliability, this is not good enough. Seeker Wireless, www.seekerwireless.com, is indeed a location technology company with high accuracy (50 m in high density area, 500 meters in rural ones) and high reliability (99%). We developed a service wrap up around this core technology, essentially a Handset-SIM-based solution for geo-fencing services such as home zone or office zone or "what ever you fancy"-zone which overcomes the issue of large revenue leakage seen in HZ services in Germany. You can find more details on our solution and our market approach at: http://www.seekerwireless.com/Downloads/tabid/1371/Default.aspx.<br /><br />Hope this helpsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17500930.post-77611170386308817622007-02-06T08:41:00.000+00:002007-02-06T08:41:00.000+00:00Anonymous - yes, I know. However, the US is very u...Anonymous - yes, I know. However, the US is very unusual in this regard, as you also typically have to pay to receive calls on your mobiles. Most countries work on a "called party pays" principle, with various other markets shifting to that model (Russia, maybe China).<br /><br />Nilz - fair point. However, there are some innovations which provide higher granularity. I know of one company (who coincidentally emailed me yesterday to offer a briefing) that has a solution based on some clever software on the SIM card & some special goe-location server in the network. Not sure the exact mechanism but they claim this type of resolution improvement as one of their selling points. No idea if that's what KPN's doing, though. Separate point on O2 Germany - they built their network with an unusually dense array of base stations in urban areas, I believe, which could generate the issues you mention.Dean Bubleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05719150957239368264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17500930.post-80530334942410906452007-02-06T08:20:00.000+00:002007-02-06T08:20:00.000+00:00Being an o2 Genion user in Germany, I don't see mu...Being an o2 Genion user in Germany, I don't see much difference in the coverage area of KPN's HomeZone. An KPN will have to deal with the same problems, o2 had in the early years. So I guess they are going to apply similar rules with the same size for their HomeZones.<br /><br />It is possible to receive an amount of 6 GSM base stations in one house. So KPN has to mark all of them as the customer's HomeZone. Finer granularity is hardly possible due to the physics of electromagnetic waves.<br /><br />o2 (called Viag Interkom then) had to deal with a great amount of customers whose "handy" (as the mobile phone in Germany is called) didn't show the HomeZone icon in every room of their house. So they started with about 500m radius and ended up with 2km, just to lower the number of customer service calls.<br /><br />Perhaps KPN has a more sophisticated piece of software to calculate the base stations for any postal address but I don't believe that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17500930.post-21156656356387684312007-02-05T19:37:00.000+00:002007-02-05T19:37:00.000+00:00Your last sentence does not apply to the US where ...Your last sentence does not apply to the US where there is no difference between calling a landline and a cellular, so the caller does not have to pay extra.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com