tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17500930.post3880857239594991608..comments2024-03-20T22:57:03.923+00:00Comments on Dean Bubley's Disruptive Wireless: Verizon Wireless - $40 for 50MB... are they joking?Dean Bubleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05719150957239368264noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17500930.post-29906560636324888622008-03-07T15:19:00.000+00:002008-03-07T15:19:00.000+00:00Its a bit difficult to read on this blog. But here...Its a bit difficult to read on this blog. But here is the data of 70 users in Feb of this year.<BR/><BR/>Forgive the "household" analytics but:<BR/><BR/>What you will see is that the bearer actually does not influence the usage pattern that much.<BR/><BR/>Bearer Connections Percent Users <BR/>3G 558 39.97% 69 <BR/>WLAN 250 17.91% 17 <BR/>2G 244 17.48% 43 <BR/>LAN 231 16.55% 39 <BR/>EDGE 74 5.3% 12 <BR/>CSD 39 2.79% 6 <BR/> <BR/>Total 1396 100% 102 <BR/><BR/>As for the browsing only, I would call it "Surf the Web" or something to convey the essence. <BR/><BR/>Any application End-User would start and/or use that goes beyond port 80 (variants of 80), I would let the Connection Manager or some sort of "guardian" warn the user that this is not possible, while on this subscription. Would also let this tool tell them to use the alternatives for this such other services. Offer WLAN or LAN, etc... <BR/><BR/>By the way, not many Operators in Europe have EDGE. But there is a big world out there and in the rest of this world, like Asia, Edge is actually very popular.<BR/>Which is not surprising if you look at the relative cost of deplyment of Edge vs 3G.<BR/><BR/>I agree with you that I too use about 1 Gig a month. In fact just got a roaming bill from VF at !#@%$# 800 euro's! for using it in Feb - during MWC. Ouch ouch ouch!<BR/><BR/>But my point here is that people like you and I are far from average users. We ARE the early adopters that spend 75 Euro a month on wireless or other gadgetery. That is also what happened in the DSL days. Average Joe (where the volume is) (a) does not want to spend this amount and (b) would rather use ITunes and streaming on his PC. <BR/><BR/>Data does not lie. People (on average) just use laptops for browsing, regardless of the speed of the technology IMHO.<BR/><BR/>Also, I think today it is certainly a secondary services to the existing ADSL market. A sort of Add-on. That is also what i think it should be marketed as. In fact in Hong Kong, as you know, PCCW offers a nice plan via Netvigator (their ISP) where you get an HSPA Subscription and modem if you have the expensive DSL Subscription. There its really an add-on. The same is happening here in the netherlands with XS4ALL (ISP owned by KPN).<BR/><BR/>Here are some stats of Feb 08:<BR/><BR/>Application Data generated Percent Users Average data/user <BR/><BR/>IEXPLORE.EXE 3.46 GBytes 26.28% 69 51 MBytes <BR/>FIREFOX.EXE 2.34 GBytes 17.78% 28 86 MBytes <BR/>ashWebSv.exe 2.24 GBytes 16.97% 9 254 MBytes <BR/>OUTLOOK.EXE 1014 MBytes 7.51% 21 48 MBytes <BR/>emule.exe 985 MBytes 7.3% 4 246 MBytes <BR/>express.exe 418 MBytes 3.1% 1 418 MBytes <BR/>Rtvscan.exe 360 MBytes 2.67% 1 360 MBytes <BR/>IQonn.exe 344 MBytes 2.55% 90 3.82 MBytes <BR/>vlc.exe 230 MBytes 1.71% 2 115 MBytes <BR/>Other 1.86 GBytes 14.14% 17 112 MBytes <BR/>Total 13.18 GBytes 100% 96 140.56 MBytes<BR/>iexplore.exe 1.61 GBytes 32.25% 49 34 MBytes <BR/>emule.exe 958 MBytes 18.77% 3 319 MBytes <BR/>firefox.exe 611 MBytes 11.96% 21 29 MBytes <BR/>ashWebSv.exe 454 MBytes 8.9% 7 65 MBytes <BR/>OUTLOOK.EXE 302 MBytes 5.91% 17 18 MBytes <BR/>IQonn.exe 237 MBytes 4.65% 63 3.77 MBytes <BR/>ccProxy.exe 127 MBytes 2.49% 2 64 MBytes <BR/>vlc.exe 115 MBytes 2.25% 1 115 MBytes <BR/>Rtvscan.exe 104 MBytes 2.04% 1 104 MBytes <BR/>ccApp.exe 100 MBytes 1.96% 2 50 MBytes <BR/>AdobeUpdater.exe 64 MBytes 1.25% 6 11 MBytes <BR/>flashget.exe 55 MBytes 1.08% 1 55 MBytes <BR/>thunderbird.exe 54 MBytes 1.06% 6 9.05 MBytes <BR/>Opera.exe 34 MBytes 0.67% 3 11 MBytes <BR/>nsl_host_process.exe 32 MBytes 0.63% 1 32 MBytes <BR/>orbitdm.exe 28 MBytes 0.55% 1 28 MBytes <BR/>Skype.exe 21 MBytes 0.42% 9 2.36 MBytes <BR/>SecureCRT.EXE 21 MBytes 0.41% 2 10 MBytes <BR/>update.exe 18 MBytes 0.35% 7 2.52 MBytes <BR/>ashMaiSv.exe 16 MBytes 0.31% 5 3.2 MBytes <BR/>mstsc.exe 14 MBytes 0.27% 3 4.66 MBytes <BR/>msiexec.exe 11 MBytes 0.22% 3 3.74 MBytes <BR/>K-Meleon.exe 8.79 MBytes 0.17% 1 8.79 MBytes <BR/>MapCalibrator.exe 7.85 MBytes 0.15% 1 7.85 MBytes <BR/>msimn.exe 7.34 MBytes 0.14% 8 940 KBytes <BR/>ICQ.exe 4.6 MBytes 0.09% 1 4.6 MBytes <BR/>UpdClient.exe 4.52 MBytes 0.09% 4 1.13 MBytes <BR/>fdm.exe 4.46 MBytes 0.09% 1 4.46 MBytes <BR/>Explorer.EXE 3.98 MBytes 0.08% 12 340 KBytes <BR/>Other 40 MBytes 0.79% 6 6.72 MBytes <BR/> <BR/>Total Appls 4.99 GBytes 100% 70 72.93 MBytes <BR/> <BR/>Port Data generated Percent Users Average data/user<BR/> <BR/>80(HTTP) 2.58 GBytes 51.84% 63 42 MBytes <BR/>443(SSL) 409 MBytes 8.01% 63 6.49 MBytes <BR/>0 307 MBytes 6.01% 46 6.67 MBytes <BR/>22680 283 MBytes 5.54% 1 283 MBytes <BR/>12080 222 MBytes 4.35% 4 56 MBytes <BR/>26347 216 MBytes 4.23% 1 216 MBytes <BR/>110(POP3) 158 MBytes 3.09% 17 9.27 MBytes <BR/>4662 130 MBytes 2.55% 5 26 MBytes <BR/>8000 112 MBytes 2.2% 2 56 MBytes <BR/>2967 104 MBytes 2.04% 1 104 MBytes <BR/>27505 75 MBytes 1.47% 1 75 MBytes <BR/>37589 48 MBytes 0.94% 1 48 MBytes <BR/>25(SMTP) 36 MBytes 0.71% 10 3.64 MBytes <BR/>85 26 MBytes 0.5% 2 13 MBytes <BR/>22 21 MBytes 0.41% 2 10 MBytes <BR/>45878 17 MBytes 0.34% 1 17 MBytes <BR/>4124 17 MBytes 0.33% 1 17 MBytes <BR/>143(IMAP) 16 MBytes 0.3% 3 5.18 MBytes <BR/>3389 14 MBytes 0.27% 4 3.5 MBytes <BR/>554 14 MBytes 0.27% 2 6.93 MBytes <BR/>2000 14 MBytes 0.27% 2 6.81 MBytes <BR/>50002 10 MBytes 0.2% 1 10 MBytes <BR/>12254 9.72 MBytes 0.19% 1 9.72 MBytes <BR/>46143 8.84 MBytes 0.17% 1 8.84 MBytes <BR/>26197 8.71 MBytes 0.17% 1 8.71 MBytes <BR/>28566 8.6 MBytes 0.17% 1 8.6 MBytes <BR/>20506 8.56 MBytes 0.17% 1 8.56 MBytes <BR/>19078 8.26 MBytes 0.16% 1 8.26 MBytes <BR/>12110 7.9 MBytes 0.15% 3 2.63 MBytes <BR/>Other 151 MBytes 2.96% 9 17 MBytes <BR/> <BR/>Total Ports 4.99 GBytes 100% 70 72.93 MBytesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17500930.post-7482122365423458202008-03-04T19:27:00.000+00:002008-03-04T19:27:00.000+00:00Hi EdsardInteresting comments. Would be interestin...Hi Edsard<BR/><BR/>Interesting comments. <BR/><BR/>Would be interesting to see the difference in behaviour between EDGE and HSPA, though. <BR/><BR/>For 2.75G it doesn't surprise me that usage was relatively low. Apart from anything else, many operators don't have EDGE anyway, or only deployed in some areas, so that would put usage back down to GPRS speeds.<BR/><BR/>HSDPA is probably the first 3GSM wireless generation that can be genuinely usable as a low-tier ADSL/cable replacement as a primary broadband line. I would think that for such users with a mix of web, video, messaging, downloads etc, 1-3GB is pretty common.<BR/><BR/>Other users such as myself use it as a secondary broadband line in addition to ADSL. My usage is probably about 1GB per month, and much of that is streamed music, with the rest browsing & messaging.<BR/><BR/>I think that Verizon would probably have done better with $40 for 500MB, $60 for 3GB, or perhaps a 3-tier offer with $20 for 50MB. I'm sure they gave it a lot of thought - I just think they're missing a trick.<BR/><BR/>I don't think "browsing and messaging" only can work - how do you define browsing? Does it include anything in a browser, including video etc? What about mashups & Web 2.0? Am I "browsing" Facebook or interacting with it as a "service"? How would you explain that to users?Dean Bubleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05719150957239368264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17500930.post-36705877087884452462008-03-02T23:14:00.000+00:002008-03-02T23:14:00.000+00:00Hi All,We did a trial, sponsored by the GSM and Mi...Hi All,<BR/><BR/>We did a trial, sponsored by the GSM and Microsoft, with 13 Mobile Operators last year in Europe, Asia and even an MNO in Africa - (300) Mass Market End-Users.<BR/><BR/>These were given an Edge Enabled notebook for a period of 3 months.<BR/>Notebook, SIM and Subscription were all free for the entire period. And there was no limitation on use!<BR/><BR/>One might expect mass of data traffic because of this unlimited use. Well surprisingly this was not the case at all. During the trial, Diginext provided reporting based on actual usage - We were totally surprised by the results ourselves.<BR/><BR/>Allthough there were slight differences per countries (<5%) The average use was never more then 700MB per month. >60% was just surfing the internet (in certain countries 90%). And most used some form of messaging like MSN or Yahoo, which did not use a lot of data. Yes, of course there was the intermitent "freak" that needed to use 3 Gigs worth of Shareaza while on an Edge network. <BR/><BR/><B>But this was well compensated by the vast majority of low use - under 500 MB per month</B>.<BR/><BR/>The results have been published by the way at <A HREF="http://www.gsmworld.com/news/press_2007/press07_59.shtml" REL="nofollow">GSMWorld </A> Read the Research report. <BR/><B>Very interesting results!</B><BR/><BR/><B>My point with this data?</B><BR/>Well either Mobile Operators are out of touch with the End-Users or they know full well that they are doing with these models. <BR/><BR/>You will always choose the more expensive plan even if you never reach that amount, just because the difference is so small.<BR/>What would you have done of the 40 would have been for 1 Gig?<BR/><BR/>I would have gone for the 40 because i know that i will never use more. The same is going on with ADSL and cable today.<BR/><BR/>Another point:<BR/><BR/>I know 50MB seems like very little. But did you know that for messaging you typically never go beyond 30MB in a month?<BR/><BR/>Why do operators not offer a "Browsing and Messaging only subscription", where on the network they block all other traffic and charge 25 USD a month?<BR/><BR/>Is it because they are out of touch (don't have this data) or it is because they would rather charge the high amount and defend (still) with the "Too low will result in too much traffic cost" excuse?<BR/><BR/>What you you think?<BR/><BR/>Regs,<BR/><BR/>EdsardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17500930.post-14826544928626068692008-02-29T19:26:00.000+00:002008-02-29T19:26:00.000+00:00I've been hoping US operators would take notice of...I've been hoping US operators would take notice of what's going on in this space in the UK and elsewhere. I pay $60 per month to Sprint for unlimited use of an EV-DO USB dongle. I love the service, but don't really use it enough to justify the cost. They, too, offer a $40 plan -- but it gives you 40 MB and they charge $.001/KB for overage (though they won't charge you more than $99.99 per month). The other option is to pay 3 cents per KB outright.<BR/><BR/>Casual/occasional/non-business use doesn't seem to be anywhere near their radars yet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com